In this episode, Dr. Stephanie Madison interviews Dr. Nelson Flores, Associate Professor of Educational Linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania. Nelson in particular looks at the intersections of language and race in a bilingual education context. In this interview, Nelson describes the harm that racialized students experience as a result of policies and common practices in bilingual education and breaks down some of the historical context for the current state of English language education in the US. He also discusses issues in heritage language education by unpacking some of expectations placed on Latinx heritage speakers in Spanish language classrooms.